Sarah de Leeuw talks about her new book of poetry GEOGRAPHIES OF A LOVER, the challenges of writing poetry about intimate sexual experiences, and how her work as a geographer informs her depictions of place and landscape. NOTE: This episode contains explicit language that may offend some listeners.

Cassie Stocks talks about her first novel, the delightful comic fable DANCE, GLADYS, DANCE, artistic self-doubt, the genius of Kurt Vonnegut, and her former job as the caretaker of her boyfriend's hydroponic pot factory.